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Title: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: Frank rules on January 16, 2009, 06:32:48 PM
A. S&S should end the series Hardy Boys Undercover Brothers and start back with the obviously more popular casefiles.

B. Let the series continue and hopefully the series will get better as time passes

C. S&S should just be done with the Hardy Boys alltogether and use their influence from the series to build a good fan base for a fresh and more well-thhought-out series.

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Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: SDLagent on January 17, 2009, 12:44:33 AM
I think, if you look through the forums for a few minutes, you'll learn more then enough of what I think of the STUPID UB books.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: tomswift2002 on January 17, 2009, 10:37:23 AM
I agree.  You'll find on this site that very few people really don't care for the UB's, but are passionate about the Casefiles & Hardy Boys Original/Digest lines.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: 003Robin457 on January 17, 2009, 01:17:12 PM
Quote from: tomswift2002 on January 17, 2009, 10:37:23 AM
I agree.  You'll find on this site that very few people really care for the UB's, but are passionate about the Casefiles & Hardy Boys Original/Digest lines.
Very few? 4 of 10 top 10 posters like the UBs and even more regulars that aren't on the top 10 do too.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: SDLagent on January 17, 2009, 07:01:06 PM
Well, pretty much all the users prefer one of the other Hardy Boys series more then the Undercover Brothers.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: Lola on January 17, 2009, 11:16:54 PM
Count me as "one of the few" who like the UBs. But then I don't take them that seriously and enjoy them for what they are...light entertainment!
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: SDLagent on January 18, 2009, 01:54:34 AM
I get where your coming from, Lola. I probably just expect hope for too much.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: Q on January 18, 2009, 09:53:20 AM
I think I'm the only one who likes both Casefiles and Undercover Brothers equally.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: Kerin on January 18, 2009, 12:15:42 PM
I choose a fourth option.

They should continue the UBs' but they should also continue the Casefiles.
That way everyone gets the books they like.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: 003Robin457 on January 18, 2009, 01:39:41 PM
The more the merrier! ;D
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: tomswift2002 on January 18, 2009, 01:47:31 PM
Quote from: Bella Swan on January 18, 2009, 12:15:42 PM
I choose a fourth option.

They should continue the UBs' but they should also continue the Casefiles.
That way everyone gets the books they like.

We've already started to talk about that: http://www.hardyboyscasefiles.com/forums/index.php?topic=770.msg6717#msg6717
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: 003Robin457 on January 18, 2009, 01:58:17 PM
Man I thought it sounded fimilar.
Man If I was the Head of S&S I'd do that and I'd also like to bring back the Digest and it would be cool if they had Hardy Boys books that where more Teen based, like 250+ pages.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: tomswift2002 on January 18, 2009, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: 003Robin457 on January 18, 2009, 01:58:17 PM
Man I thought it sounded fimilar.
Man If I was the Head of S&S I'd do that and I'd also like to bring back the Digest and it would be cool if they had Hardy Boys books that where more Teen based, like 250+ pages.

And in the third person.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: Frank rules on January 18, 2009, 04:01:18 PM
Responding to reply #5, how can any teen see the HBUBs as even light entertainment.They have completely lost the whole whodunit layout and the action that made the Casefiles and Digests  so popular. Now the plot is so thin that even a 3 year old could see who the villain is from about chaper 5. And if they couldn't, then it is because S&S might not even know who they want to make the villain until the end (I repeat, Murder House series, I see you out there!) >:(
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: SDLagent on January 19, 2009, 01:30:49 AM
Quote from: Frank rules on January 18, 2009, 04:01:18 PM
Responding to reply #5, how can any teen see the HBUBs as even light entertainment.They have completely lost the whole whodunit layout and the action that made the Casefiles and Digests  so popular. Now the plot is so thin that even a 3 year old could see who the villain is from about chaper 5. And if they couldn't, then it is because S&S might not even know who they want to make the villain until the end (I repeat, Murder House series, I see you out there!) >:(

ROTFLOL! ;D ;D Do you hear that Lola? A teen! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Your in her good books, now, man.

I disagree with your comment about them losing the whodunit layout. I find the UB are that, more then any other HB series, in that, in the UB there's always one person, and the Hardys spend the whole book trying to find out who it is. Whereas in other series, the Hardys find out who the bad guys are halfway through the book and spend the rest off the book trying to outsmart the baddies.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: Frank rules on January 19, 2009, 02:56:04 PM
I'm sorry if my meaning wasn't clear but what I meant by what I said was that the books may have not lost the whodunit layout, but by the end, the bad guy who did it doesn't even make sense. It's like the writers just decided at the end that they had to make the story click, so they came up with a mildly beleivable solution to a poblem that might take another fifty pages to develop well. Oh my gosh, that was a mouthful! ;)
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: tomswift2002 on January 19, 2009, 06:45:36 PM
Quote from: SDLagent on January 19, 2009, 01:30:49 AM
ROTFLOL! ;D ;D Do you hear that Lola? A teen! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Your in her good books, now, man.

I disagree with your comment about them losing the whodunit layout. I find the UB are that, more then any other HB series, in that, in the UB there's always one person, and the Hardys spend the whole book trying to find out who it is. Whereas in other series, the Hardys find out who the bad guys are halfway through the book and spend the rest off the book trying to outsmart the baddies.

Also, in the Original series, Digests and Casefiles, a lot of times there were the "whodunnit" stories, but instead of it just being one person, a lot of times the boys would be introduced to lower gang members, but then it would take the rest of the book to figure out who the 'head' of the gang or the 'directors' of the gang.

As with the plot, I have to agree.  With the most recent UB, Double Deception, I kept wondering when Frank and Joe would ask Justin if he was really Ryan, and yet they never did, and right from Chapter 2 it was very obvious that "Justin" was really "Ryan".  Infact, no one in the book bothered to ask "Justin" if he was "Ryan".  If someone close to me was acting just the slightest bit weird, and someone else was missing, I'd definitely ask if they were the missing person just acting as another person.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: SDLagent on January 19, 2009, 08:56:24 PM
You've read ''Double Deception'' already?
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: Frank rules on January 20, 2009, 06:17:14 PM
Say, this is a bit off topic but why hasn't anyone posted in the Double Decption/ Galaxy X discussion that I started?Or aren't there any spoilers yet? ???
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on January 20, 2009, 07:35:25 PM
Is the Galaxy X Trilogy out already?
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: 003Robin457 on January 20, 2009, 08:48:59 PM
No.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: Frank rules on January 21, 2009, 05:27:15 PM
It isn't, but I thought that spoilers might already be floating around on the internet...  :-\
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: 003Robin457 on January 22, 2009, 05:31:28 PM
Not that I've heard S&S is veary secretive.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: Olivia on January 22, 2009, 07:27:48 PM
Quote from: Frank rules on January 19, 2009, 02:56:04 PM
I'm sorry if my meaning wasn't clear but what I meant by what I said was that the books may have not lost the whodunit layout, but by the end, the bad guy who did it doesn't even make sense. It's like the writers just decided at the end that they had to make the story click, so they came up with a mildly beleivable solution to a poblem that might take another fifty pages to develop well. Oh my gosh, that was a mouthful! ;)

I see what you mean. Although I have to say that there might be a couple of UBs out there that are planned better sometimes.

Anyways, it does sometimes seem like they pick who the bad guy is in the end (like you said) and then they take one or two (incriminating) facts and throw in back in the earlier chapters so there will be some kind of connection.
Title: Re: What Do You think of the Hardy Boys Undercver Brothers ?
Post by: Frank rules on January 23, 2009, 10:36:26 PM
Exactly man! Now you get how I've felt since 2005 when I started reading the lame books (though books 1-5 were admittedly better than any of them until now...)   ;D