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Title: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on November 30, 2010, 04:24:12 AM
The third title in the Nancy Drew: The New Case Files series has been reveled on Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Nancy-Drew-New-Case-Files/dp/1597072621/)! "Together with the Hardy Boys" is written by the current writer of The Hardy Boys, Gerry Conway, and drawn by the current artist on the Nancy Drew series, Sho Murase. It is planned for a August 2011 release.
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Post by: MacGyver on November 30, 2010, 10:30:43 AM
Cool! I guess they just went with a straightforward title. They're definitely hyping this up a good bit, but then it IS the first time The Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew have met in comic book/graphic novel form. So it will be pretty cool- especially considering the twist that Frank and Joe aren't really working together at the time either. And it builds on events in both the Nancy Drew and The Hardy Boys titles- so, of course, you'll want to buy both titles to keep up with what's going on in the crossover story. Those kinds of things are always good for sales. ;) But that's cool- I'm liking it so far. It will be interesting to see Sho Murase's version of The Hardy Boys.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on November 30, 2010, 07:16:38 PM
Yeah, it's pretty cool that this title will be continuing the plot lines set-up in the first two titles of each New Case Files series. I actually thought of this before Papercutz did!

And I'm glad Gerry Conway will be writing this. It's interesting that this is part of the main Nancy Drew series especially considering Conway's writing. You'd think they'd make this into it's own series.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on November 30, 2010, 08:18:49 PM
Wow! That's awesome! I am a little skeptical at the art choice just because I am not a huge fan of the ND art. BUT I will definitely give it a solid chance since Gerry is writing it.

Should be interesting. Hopefully August doesn't turn into December.  :-\
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on December 01, 2010, 02:01:30 AM
Quote from: hardygirl847 on November 30, 2010, 08:18:49 PMShould be interesting. Hopefully August doesn't turn into December.  :-\

I don't think it will considering they had a bit of time to work on this new series. I'm guessing this title's already close to done.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 01, 2010, 08:47:27 PM
I hope you're right about that! :) Is is just up on Amazon or available for pre-order too?
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on December 02, 2010, 02:30:49 AM
Pre-order.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 06, 2010, 01:26:05 PM
Sweet! No preview or cover art yet though.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: tomswift2002 on December 06, 2010, 02:51:24 PM
I wonder if later on they'll have a main-stream Hardy Boys New Casefiles with Nancy Drew crossing over that is written by the Nancy Drew writer?
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Post by: MacGyver on December 06, 2010, 03:41:59 PM
That'd be cool with me. Or maybe even one with both writers collaborating. I guess maybe graphic novels and comics are done differently, even when based on existing properties, but I've kinda wondered why they don't list the comics for both as being authored by "Franklin W. Dixon" and "Carolyn Keene", respectively. (rather than just "based on stories by...") I mean, I know the writers need recognition certainly- but apparently Papercutz didn't have to maintain the Dixon and Keene personas. (It kind of reminds me of Santa Claus or The Phantom and Zorro to some degree- and with the current comics run, Batman too for that matter.) So for the books, different ghostwriters have come through writing them- but they've always been attributed to Dixon and/or Keene. But there's a distinction with the graphic novels. Of course, if someone honestly was writing these books since 1927, they would most certainly have to be (assuming they were a child prodigy and authoring books since they were in their teens perhaps) well at about 100 years old or more. Which would be really pretty funny to think of all the change in language and writing styles that The Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew books have gone through over the years and to think that a centenarian has been adapting their writing through all this time.
And this has definitely segued way off the main topic, so I'll stop here. ;D
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on December 06, 2010, 05:59:49 PM
I guess having the same writer writing both novels and graphic novels is even harder to believe than having the same writer write 400 novels.

That and Franklin W. Dixon is owned by S&S not Papercutz.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: MacGyver on December 06, 2010, 07:22:55 PM
True.  :)
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 08, 2010, 09:21:10 AM
I kind of wondered that myself. It makes sense that Papercutz wouldn't be able to use the Dixon pen name.  Frankly, (haha) the direction that this new series is going is very different from other series. Maybe it's better that there is a distinction in the author as well.

Either way, we're almost 3 months away from Break Up! WAHOO!
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SkyWarp on December 08, 2010, 12:33:50 PM
These graphic novels are getting durther and further apart.  :( 

And the Hardy Boys haven't realy been mentioned much on the papercutz blog like Nancy or other of their new series (smurfs, garfield, disney fairies, etc).  This worries me. Anyone know what sales are looking like for "Crawling with Zombies" as compared to previous graphic novels?
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on December 08, 2010, 04:46:41 PM
No, I don't but I don't think we need to start worrying, yet, considering the new series just started. You're right, though, Papercutz hasn't been mentioning the series much.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 10, 2010, 12:53:17 PM
See...this is what bothers me. If you want new and old fans to get into a series, wouldn't you want to market it or do SOMETHING to get the word out there?

Nancy Drew is certainly found in more places but she's also marketed, available to kids more often, and discussed more on the official blogs, etc.

I look at the scholastic book orders, and ND is there almost every time where as HBs appeared maybe 2 times. The book stores do not carry new HBs hardly ever.

For someone that loves the HB so much, why do I have to search the internet for something that should be easily accessible? Kids are not going to do that...unless they already love HBs (and parental permission). How do we get a new fanbase with the mentality that HBs don't need marketing?

The new and old GNs are hard to find but I think some of the kids I know would LOVE them. But nope, they are not going to be exposed to the wonders of the HB world because S &S and Papercutz don't feel the need to market.

As for sales reports...I couldn't find any official numbers, but I did find something from the Macmillan site. It appears to be a line up of new GNs. Great pictures of the covers. ND is in there as well as some other ones. Back list info for the other GN series is towards the end.

Find that link here... http://us.macmillan.com/CMS400/uploadedFiles/MacmillanSite/Non-Menu_Items/bookseller_services/Winter11PZ_cropped_reduced.pdf (http://us.macmillan.com/CMS400/uploadedFiles/MacmillanSite/Non-Menu_Items/bookseller_services/Winter11PZ_cropped_reduced.pdf)

Oops...part of my point was in the description for Break Up, a few numbers are thrown around. To me, they don't seem like a whole lot compared to other series, but I guess it's enough?
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on December 10, 2010, 04:30:29 PM
Looks like they've sold about 50,000 more Nancy Drew graphics than HB. I guess they're hopping this crossover will boost sales for the boys.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 11, 2010, 04:35:50 PM
I'm hoping the same thing. I have to wonder though...whose fault is it really?!
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: MacGyver on December 13, 2010, 12:30:32 AM
Apparently ours for not buying 50,000 more copies of The Hardy Boys graphic novels. ;)
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 13, 2010, 08:15:22 PM
lol No...it's THEIR fault for not putting them out there for consumers to buy! Not everyone can buy stuff on the computer. I wouldn't even know about anything new from the HBs if I wasn't on this forum or kept up with anything. I would have no clue whatsoever. What kind of marketing is that?!
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 19, 2010, 12:26:36 AM
Does anyone know where the cover art for Together With the Hardy Boys is from? I cannot find it on Amazon or anywhere else. It SUPER excites me for that book. Well, despite Frank's crazy hair. lol

Worst downside to it...We have to wait almost 8 more months!
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on December 21, 2010, 02:08:15 AM
I don't think it's been reveled, yet.

Frank's crazy hair?
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Post by: hardygirl847 on December 21, 2010, 03:42:34 PM
Check out the front page of this website and scroll down on the left side to see what's coming up. You'll see Break Up under March...and more every few months. Towards the bottom there is the following picture. That's what I'm talking about. Yes, Frank has some wild hair. lol

(http://www.hardyboyscasefiles.com/images/comingsoon/NDGNCF_003.jpg)

I was wondering where this came from because I can't find it anywhere but here! Still super cool though.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: MacGyver on December 21, 2010, 08:27:42 PM
Cool to see the cover! Very nice. I guess the simple title is good too because it empasizes that this is the first time Nancy Drew has met up with The Hardy Boys in the comics. :D
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 21, 2010, 10:45:51 PM
Yeah but I can't find it on any site...so i don't know where this cover art came from.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: MacGyver on December 22, 2010, 10:40:54 AM
Papercutz may have specifically sent the cover art over to Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew websites to promote the title- you can also see the cover art at NancyDrewSleuth.com as well.
http://www.nancydrewsleuth.com/sightingsbookpc.html
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on December 23, 2010, 12:31:25 AM
http://hardyboys.wikia.com/wiki/Together_with_the_Hardy_Boys

I uploaded the full size version to The Hardy Boy Wiki.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: MacGyver on December 23, 2010, 01:06:51 AM
Cool! Thanks! Hey- when did Frank dye his hair blue?  ;D
(besides Evil, Inc.) ;)
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on December 23, 2010, 01:13:11 AM
It's (and Fenton's) been blue in most of the graphic novels. I've wondered why brown wasn't used to highlight his hair...
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Post by: MacGyver on December 23, 2010, 09:21:53 PM
Well, I guess it really looks pretty blue to me particularly on this cover.
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Post by: hardygirl847 on December 23, 2010, 09:55:51 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on December 22, 2010, 10:40:54 AM
Papercutz may have specifically sent the cover art over to Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew websites to promote the title- you can also see the cover art at NancyDrewSleuth.com as well.
http://www.nancydrewsleuth.com/sightingsbookpc.html

Cool! I didn't know that. I searched a not too long ago...Hmm...Oh well. Thanks!

Quote from: SDLagent on December 23, 2010, 01:13:11 AM
It's (and Fenton's) been blue in most of the graphic novels. I've wondered why brown wasn't used to highlight his hair...

I wondered the same thing. The artist makes Frank and Fenton's hair black with blue highlights. Brown would make more sense to me too.

Quote from: MacGyver on December 23, 2010, 09:21:53 PM

Well, I guess it really looks pretty blue to me particularly on this cover.


His hair looks pretty blue and wild! lol I'm hoping the inside will be his normal hair.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on December 24, 2010, 02:00:49 AM
Someone on HDA mentioned that Frank looks like Sonic the Hedgehog.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: Jokerette on December 24, 2010, 09:13:29 AM
well...far be it from me to compare frank t a hedgehog (even a collosally cool one like sonic  ;D)...but there was a very very slight resemblance  :D
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on January 03, 2011, 10:57:28 PM
Quote from: SDLagent on December 24, 2010, 02:00:49 AM
Someone on HDA mentioned that Frank looks like Sonic the Hedgehog.

I'd have to agree on this one. I hope there's a reason?!
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: MacGyver on January 04, 2011, 09:09:39 AM
Sure- it must be the obvious Papercutz/Archie comics crossover everyone's been waiting for!
Archie Andrews meets Sonic the Hedgehog (and The Hardy Boys as well since Frank has apparently switched bodies with Sonic!)
;D

This might even be better than the time Archie met The Punisher. (And no, I'm actually not kidding about that one. 8))
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on January 05, 2011, 12:33:00 AM
And maybe that crossover will lead to Frank and Joe appearing the next Super Smash Bros. game. Actually, that would be freaking awesome!
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: Jokerette on January 05, 2011, 08:54:43 AM
yeah! now that's one game i would definetly buy.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: MacGyver on January 05, 2011, 01:52:37 PM
QuoteAnd maybe that crossover will lead to Frank and Joe appearing the next Super Smash Bros. game. Actually, that would be freaking awesome!
Haha- that would be cool. :D
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on January 06, 2011, 04:59:00 PM
lol Very interesting crossover idea. Maybe Amazon will update the info soon or maybe even Papercutz will. I just hope there is a good reason why Frank has crazy hair.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: MacGyver on January 06, 2011, 05:05:32 PM
QuoteI just hope there is a good reason why Frank has crazy hair.
It's for the case. It's always for the case. ;D
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Post by: hardygirl847 on January 06, 2011, 05:26:08 PM
Gosh I hope so!
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Post by: Jokerette on January 10, 2011, 07:40:05 AM
why? crazy hair doesn't change a person! i should know!  ;)  :P
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Post by: hardygirl847 on January 11, 2011, 04:19:08 PM
Quote from: DarkMist on January 10, 2011, 07:40:05 AM
why? crazy hair doesn't change a person! i should know!  ;)  :P


In real life that's different. Frank and Joe have evolved a little over the past 84 years but not THAT much. :)
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on January 11, 2011, 10:45:59 PM
Frank's hair was originally black. Over time it became dark brown. And now it's blue.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on January 13, 2011, 01:24:36 AM
Well I'm hoping it doesn't stay blue. I always picture him with dark brown hair. I didn't even know it was originally black until I started reading some bluespines.

I suppose it has evolved somewhat. I think that style of hair is a little less like Frank though...
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on January 13, 2011, 02:10:37 AM
It will probably always be blue in the graphic novels. It's a colour that's been used instead of black in comics for years.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on January 13, 2011, 01:39:20 PM
The black with the blue for comic books/GNs is actually okay with me. I prefer to think of Frank with dark brown hair but I will admit that the black/blue combo is more striking for a visual story like a graphic novel. The hedgehog shape is what concerns me at this point. In Break Up, it doesn't look that way. Although, both boys have substantial muscles on this cover too...Interesting.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on January 13, 2011, 02:25:09 PM
I think it's just this artist's style. The good news for those who don't like it is that this isn't the regular artist. This artist's just doing the crossover.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: MacGyver on January 13, 2011, 02:26:40 PM
Right- Sho Murase from the Nancy Drew series, isn't it?
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: hardygirl847 on January 17, 2011, 03:27:40 PM
Quote from: SDLagent on January 13, 2011, 02:25:09 PM
I think it's just this artist's style. The good news for those who don't like it is that this isn't the regular artist. This artist's just doing the crossover.

Oh my goodness! How did I not see that?? What kind of detective am I?! lol No...I really just missed that totally. I guess that makes more sense now too.

LESS THAN 2 months until BREAK UP!!!!
Title: Re: The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew crossover gets graphic!
Post by: SDLagent on January 18, 2011, 01:24:34 AM
Quote from: MacGyver on January 13, 2011, 02:26:40 PM
Right- Sho Murase from the Nancy Drew series, isn't it?

Correct.